Pickup Improvement! :)

apparition · Post by **apparition** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:14 am

I love pickup. It's awesome. But I have a couple of thoughts on how to improve pickup, and I bet many of you do as well.

1. The worst part of pickup is the lengthy time it takes to pick teams. Any ideas on how we can speed this process up?

2. Subs: When you !add and sign up for a game, but there are too many players, could the script designate the people who didn't make the cut Sub #1, #2, etc. to avoid confusion on who gets to sub if they're needed?

3. Zone conquer points? I mean, ya gotta admit, it's harder to conquer the zone in pickup than in regular matches for some reason (has something changed in the setup?).

Word · Post by **Word** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:42 am

There's a simple solution for all 3 points at once. Don't do pickups.

apparition · Post by **apparition** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:42 am

Seriously? Are people not allowed to post on the Arma forums without getting shitty replies anymore?

Anyway, the zone conquer is definitely slower.

MrsKsr · Post by **MrsKsr** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:51 am

As far as I'm aware the pickup servers are currently in testing mode, due to the fragrant discussion as of late.

Kijutsu · Post by **Kijutsu** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:47 am

apparition wrote:1. The worst part of pickup is the lengthy time it takes to pick teams. Any ideas on how we can speed this process up?

Could be fixed like tst.eu, automatic teams. You could argue that there will be unbalanced teams this way, but there are unbalanced teams all the time so that's not an issue.

I don't really care for the other 2 points, personally.

apparition · Post by **apparition** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:25 am

What if we picked teams in IRC instead of in the pickup server? Maybe the two captains are automatically redirected to a different chat to pick teams? I don't know

theroze · Post by **theroze** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:56 am

vogue wrote:
apparition wrote:1. The worst part of pickup is the lengthy time it takes to pick teams. Any ideas on how we can speed this process up?
Could be fixed like tst.eu, automatic teams. You could argue that there will be unbalanced teams this way, but there are unbalanced teams all the time so that's not an issue.

I don't really care for the other 2 points, personally.

+1, and to your tst point: Many times the unbalanced teams win then. I don't know why, but it's quite often that way.

syllabear · Post by **syllabear** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:25 am

apparition wrote:2. Subs: When you !add and sign up for a game, but there are too many players, could the script designate the people who didn't make the cut Sub #1, #2, etc. to avoid confusion on who gets to sub if they're needed?

A non issue: Whoever !adds after one game is signed up for the next. Simply see who !added for that one first, and go down the list of who wants to sub in.

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Topic should be moved to Servers > Other (or Servers > Pickup if that happens soon).

I like the captain picking teams. To me, that's one of the main appeals of the pickup format. It's like playing street ball with your friends. I've never seen a problem with subs. They technically aren't suppose to be there anyway, but I think the captains should decide who plays no matter who wants too. Again, like street ball. And the settings are perfect because they are un-Ladle-like. No need for zone points. I think pickup is a great format the way it is. Serious gameplay. Unique, experimental settings. Don't mess with perfection.

Post by **epsy** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:09 pm

apparition wrote:1. The worst part of pickup is the lengthy time it takes to pick teams. Any ideas on how we can speed this process up?

The warmup mode we tested the other day solved this problem hands down, but the overall poor performance on trunk caused us to pull the change back until that can be fixed.

matchbox53 · Post by **matchbox53** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:27 pm

I think if we want somewhat a nearly balanced teams we could base it on gridstats of a player connected to your bot that will distribute them evenly . Could this be possible ?

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:16 am

epsy wrote:The warmup mode we tested the other day solved this problem hands down

What is the "warmup mode?"

Jip · Post by **Jip** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:40 am

DDMJ wrote:
epsy wrote:The warmup mode we tested the other day solved this problem hands down
What is the "warmup mode?"

https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetrona ... nad-warmup

Post by **epsy** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:45 am

matchbox53 wrote:I think if we want somewhat a nearly balanced teams we could base it on gridstats of a player connected to your bot that will distribute them evenly . Could this be possible ?

I personally don't think I want that.

Jip wrote:
DDMJ wrote:
epsy wrote:The warmup mode we tested the other day solved this problem hands down
What is the "warmup mode?"
https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetrona ... nad-warmup

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetron ... :/NEWS#L20

dariv · Post by **dariv** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:10 pm

I live the idea of allocated teams. It would easily save 5 minutes just like that.

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