The definition of racism;

[LucK]

Why are you avoiding this Liz....So quick to point the finger. Maybe your finger should be pointing at yourself??

heh i think that would be masturbation.

idk this topic has become a joke so why not.

[Eckz]

Your attitudes towards racism are intolerable and disgusting. It's unfortunate that this issue couldn't be discussed with people who have a little bit of dignity. I am half Black and half Dominican, so I have the issue of dealing with racists on a regular note. It's not very enjoyable and it can be very discomforting. I won't give you guys the pleasure of displaying examples of my life where I've had to do so, because it seems you guys want to cause more issues than there needs to be. We don't need people like you in the world, the everything-is-fine type. Clearly if you think that's the case, then you're on another planet.

Sin, racism doesn't have to take generations to go away. If unintelligent people like you believe so then maybe you and the others agreeing with you, Boxed and Force, can go die in a fire. Sadly you idiots won't ever understand what racism means, because you don't have to deal with it on a daily basis. I'm sorry that I've somehow made your lives hell in some alternate life, but that results in calling me indecent words? Seems a bit unfair. I remember being in WW Sumo when you were calling Taz, from what I remember, a "monkey." I'm sure that just happened to slip your mind, but seeing as you don't have much sense I can see how that may be possible.

Boxed, you can stop acting like you care about black people, because I know you're not going to do anything if one of your black friends was called anything derogatory. Why, because you agree with Sin, who said that people should get over themselves and just accept that racism is going to exist no matter what. Which isn't the truth if people like you would shut your mouth.

Force, your pathetic attempts to justify why being racist is okay are humorous. You're as bad as Sin, maybe why you agree with him and how you gravitated to staying in ID. I'm sure the racist comments on Ventrilo don't bother you one bit, but how about one of the members that recently left, Tremor. Why were his feelings never considered? Was it because he's black and his feelings are lesser than yours? Also, this is the internet, racism is not a game, and we should be taking it seriously. Unlike you, which we are not. No wonder Tremor left you insensitive pricks.

You guys can't let grudges with Liz go, but you want to tell blacks to let go of our past. That our past shouldn't allow us to be upset when called certain names. Hopefully one day you guys are able to wake up and realize that you could help to ending racism by not saying some of the things that you have in this topic.

Congratulations ID, you're now the scum of tron - not like your title there was in jeopardy or anything.

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get over it stop crying, no one gives a shit. If I offend you with something I say it's because you have no sense of humor

Sinn, judging by your comments, it's obvious that 'You, "Dont give a Sh*t". However, what is most important to note, is that the topic of 'racism' is Thousands of years old. Whether racism towards 'blacks' of toward the 'minority'. What does that mean? It means, alot of people have very genuine feelings about being 'singled out'. And for those who do not fall into the 'minority' but are not racist, feel for those being victimized. The reason 'black people' -for example- are stereotyped with 'stealing' is not because.. Only 'black people steal', it's because they have always been the minority. There is NOTHING a black man has done, that a white man has not also done. Infact, the most infamous thieves are White men. Go figure? Most infamous murderers.. White men. The list goes on. What it comes down to though, is actually humorous to me.. People like you, have no genuine nature whatsoever about their opinions. 100% stereotypical. You're opinion is stemmed purely from prevarication. You think you're opinionated, when in reality you're opinions were around long before you were. Which, this also goes along with your unique (..not) sense of humor. It's unnatural to 'get off' on belittling people based on minority. So then, where did it come from? The moment you realize you're just a spokesman for further twisting the morals and views of our generation, i hope you take a moment to stop and look around. Show a little consideration for people as individuals. Not just comparing everyone's opinions and feelings to what is typical; i.e 'If you dont perceive humor as i do, then you have no sense of humor, hence my sense of humor is typical and yours is atypical'



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[Sinn]

Eckz stop being a baby, your sad lil story and insults do not affect me. No one did anything to you so whatever...I don't even know who you are.....

You are not honest with yourself. Most of these points are obvious truths. DO YOU HONESTLY think racism is just going to go away? Do you see it going away anytime soon? No didn't think so.

herp derp

Is this some kind of racist word I don't know about?

Of course you will avoid it Liz, because you know (according to yourself) that you are a racist.

I see no one cares about everyone else's racism here. At least we are being honest and not lying to your face like Liz who was obviously caught red handed.

What Eckz, you don't care about Liz's racist comments because it's about Spanish or Mexicans? No I guess you only care about racism if it's against black people. Maybe you should go die in a fire, you racist.

I might not deal with as much racism but i've been called white trash, cracker, trailer trash blah blah blah, but NO ONE cares unless it's about black people. Obviously from Liz's racist comments NO ONE HERE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT, all comments keep coming back to what I said LOL. you are all sad.....

Not to mention I deal with religious bashing almost EVERYDAY because of my religion, and many other things....so I deal with shit every day, just because I don't deal with being picked on for being black doesn't mean I don't deal with shit too. But no one cares about what other people deal with, they only care if it's against black people, as most of you on this topic have made clear.

[gawdzilla]

no I'm not a racist but I also didn't claim that I've never made racist jokes/comments in the past, I've been trying to be a better person to people online because theyre real people too and racism is simply not okay even though some of us in the past and now have thought its harmless

you're just the same old jerk you've always been, grow up man, you're in your late 20's

[F0RC3]

Also just i would like to state since when does 3 ID members=the whole clan... these are our own individual oppinions. which obviously you cant handle since you told us to go die in a fire...

[sinewav]

Aside from the the incredible shock I feel after reading some of the recent comments here, I'm also completely shocked to be on gawdzilla's side throughout this whole thread, haha! My, how things change so quickly.

I guess I'm a little sensitive to the race issue, having been a victim of racism a few times. It really changes your perspective (not that I thought racism was OK before then).

[THEred]

its sad that many people here dont understand the effects of racism until they actually have to go through it.. dont justify racism because "everyone does it." i suggest put your feet into someone else's shoes who has gone through racial discrimination, and then speak your mind. but dont try to find a way to make being racist seem not as bad as it seems, because in the end, it is soo much worse than it seems.

[Eckz]

Expressing my views limits me to being a baby. It's probably cause I'm black, right?

No, the point in this topic has been directed towards black people, that would be you who did that. In response to what Liz said, no I don't care. That happened nearly two years ago, I'm not going to hold a grudge. Go ahead and hold one against me because I am black.

Yes Force, it allows me to do that. You believe all black people are ******, right? Well I think all IDs are racist, see how that works?

[Sinn]

Liz just a few posts ago when I said you were guilty of it you said NO YOU WEREN"T......how dumb and forgetful are you? Do I need to have to quote the shit you said over and over so you don't forget?

Anyway , this topic is getting useless as new people are posting who have not even read everything.

I made my opinion clear as I can, even tho most of you are too dumb to understand it and keep twisting the words around.

My reputation? Like I give a **** about half you snobby stuck up hypocritical views of me or ID.

Obviously most people in this topic would prefer to have their head in the clouds then to face the truth..but that's the way of people today. Rub your magic lamps and wish for racism to be gone tomorrow because that's the only way it's gonna happen.

LOL Eckz your a pro at crying racism, do you do this on a daily basis? roflmao

[gawdzilla]

I said you've never seen or heard me be racist, maybe you should take some time off justifying racism and learn how to read

[F0RC3]

i did not say all black people are ******, and i dont believe that. read my entire post instead of listening to liz.

[gawdzilla]

WE DON'T CONDONE RACISM!!!!!!!!!

and i find that many black are complete ******* ******. so thats why i'm racist.

and i find that many black are complete ******* ******.

and i find that many black people are complete ******* ******.

and i find that many black people are complete ******* ******.

and i find that many black people are complete ******* ******.

[Thump]

I made my opinion clear as I can, even tho most of you are too dumb to understand it and keep twisting the words around.

My reputation? Like I give a **** about half you snobby stuck up hypocritical views of me or ID.

Obviously most people in this topic would prefer to have their head in the clouds then to face the truth..but that's the way of people today.

Sinn, It's much easier just going with the flow isnt it? God forbid you see needed change in your views. Pride will hold your moral conscience underwater until you're subconsciously gasping for solid foundation to your opinions.

[F0RC3]

Since when does all=many.