TST 2008.11 - 64 Players, 2 Winners - November 30th

Post by **epsy** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:09 am

You can do anything you like, SCORE_HOLE 10 is in for 2008.11

FourMJR · Post by **FourMJR** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:47 am

Is there still a Position to join? Or am I too late?

Update: Found the site!

Anyone need a partner? Please and thank you.

emphasis · Post by **emphasis** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:31 am

epsy wrote:You can do anything you like, SCORE_HOLE 10 is in for 2008.11

But why dont we vote about it, because you aren't the majority too

owned · Post by **owned** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:42 am

epsy wrote:That's how I read it.

Nobody complained at that time, and now, some(=you) are complaining about it. You are still not
the majority
, especially not everybody

well out of the people who posted here, it is 7-1
durka, 1200, lacka, k-yo, me, empha, and shock are for it.
You are apparently the only one who likes it. So yes, it is "the majority."

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:06 am

epsy wrote:
owned wrote:why do we even try something new. I see no reason to try other than the fact that about 3 months ago a major server did.
So let's all stay in caves. If nobody goes forward, nobody does.

Why don't we all go jump off a cliff and see what happens...

epsy wrote:Nobody complained at that time, and now, some(=you) are complaining about it.

Nobody complained about score_hole in fortress until we had a discussion of whether or not it should be used in a competitive tournament. It does not surprise me that your team was one of the few (2-6 was the final vote) that wanted score_hole to be on. But still, 2-6 is more convincing than 1-everyone else.

You are truly being irrational and a complete Badmin on this topic epsy. Yes, it's nice that you're reviving the TST, but why go against the population and put in a "stupid" bonus of points, just for "fun."

The community wanted a TST - done? [YES] NO
The community wanted score_hole 0 - done? YES [NO]

Goodygumdrops · Post by **Goodygumdrops** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:21 am

Why is the whole sign up method done the way it is? I would much prefer the sign ups to be on a forum thread where it is completely transparent what is happening.

What happens in a situation where a person signs up with a partner that doesn't want to play with them?

Post by **epsy** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:49 am

Goodygumdrops wrote:Why is the whole sign up method done the way it is?

Fast and automatic.

I would much prefer the sign ups to be on a forum thread where it is completely transparent what is happening.

I really didn't like the way it was done before(ie. forum threads), but if you're talking about seeing who's registered or not, it's on my TODO-list for long but I'm loosing both time and will here.

What happens in a situation where a person signs up with a partner that doesn't want to play with them?

Then the partner doesn't confirm, or, if you didn't make me loose my time on this thread, there would be also an "infirm" link in the confirmation mails, and the goddamn team edition form.

Now, regarding the holing points. The holing points are in and I've never been willing to discuss it. Play the TST or not, and then tell me if holing points ruined your playing experience. The decision is definitive, for the 2008.11 season, that said.

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:38 am

epsy wrote:Now, regarding the holing points. The holing points are in and I've never been willing to discuss it. Play the TST or not, and then tell me if holing points ruined your playing experience. The decision is definitive, for the 2008.11 season, that said.

Am I the only one finding this to be quite ridiculous?

Basically the entire thread has stated reasons why we should get rid of hole points, yet you (and only you) insist on keeping them in.

I'm totally lost and confused.

Am I missing something?

Goodygumdrops · Post by **Goodygumdrops** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:49 am

easy enough, I'll not play

edit:
holing points ruined my experience: their inclusion in the settings caused me not to play

emphasis · Post by **emphasis** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:22 am

Yeah wtf, why isn't there any discussion possible?

And if it's going this way ... I don't even want to play

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:28 am

emphasis wrote:Yeah wtf, why isn't there any discussion possible?

And if it's going this way ... I don't even want to play

same

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:00 am

Last time I checked this thread was a discussion emph oO
I was against hole pts...just because..well..why have them
Though seeing that epsy really wanted to have hole_score in this tst (more than I didn't), whatever, I'm willing to go along with it and see how it turns out. If it sucks then yeah, I don't see hole score being a part of future tst's.
Also I think epsys earned the right to include this since I know he spent alot of time organising & making the site etc. & I don't see anyone else organising one any time soon.

Nobody complained about score_hole in fortress until we had a discussion of whether or not it should be used in a competitive tournament. It does not surprise me that your team was one of the few (2-6 was the final vote) that wanted score_hole to be on.

I guess that's answered by kyo

Another thing is that we are all trained to play without the score_hole, it changes the strategy, and less good players could beat better players just by 'controlling' the way they get points...

playing with some rules almost no one used in the last 3 months will make the game random...

..yet every team (bar x & ds) decided against hole pts which was used in cafe & every other used fort serv

End of the day I don't care enough about scole_hole 10 to not participate in this tourney :>

emphasis · Post by **emphasis** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:18 am

Hoax wrote:Last time I checked this thread was a discussion emph oO

epsy wrote:Now, regarding the holing points. The holing points are in and I've never been willing to discuss it. Play the TST or not, and then tell me if holing points ruined your playing experience. The decision is definitive, for the 2008.11 season, that said.

That doesn't sound like there is any discussing possible

Hoax wrote:End of the day I don't care enough about scole_hole 10 to not participate in this tourney :>

Yeah, if the majority wants that setting, i could live with it, but telling us here that the majority wants it while everybody is negative about it ....

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:21 am

Hoax wrote:End of the day I don't care enough about scole_hole 10 to not participate in this tourney :>

That's not really the point I'm getting at.

I just don't think it is "right" that the tournament organizer is going against the suggestion of seemingly everyone.

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:59 pm

emphasis wrote:
Hoax wrote:Last time I checked this thread was a discussion emph oO

epsy wrote:Now, regarding the holing points. The holing points are in and I've never been willing to discuss it. Play the TST or not, and then tell me if holing points ruined your playing experience. The decision is definitive, for the 2008.11 season, that said.
That doesn't sound like there is any discussing possible

Lol, true

DDMJ wrote:
Hoax wrote:End of the day I don't care enough about scole_hole 10 to not participate in this tourney :>
That's not really the point I'm getting at.

I just don't think it is "right" that the tournament organizer is going against the suggestion of seemingly everyone.

Well you missing the point I'm getting at. Is that really worth being so stubborn & not playing in a tourney for (epsy aside); all im saying.

I hope everyone just plays & just gets some experience from it so the next tst will be even better..