Ladle 17

owned · Post by **owned** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:12 am

DDMJ wrote:
owned wrote:with top 2 teams on opposite sides?
How do you classify the top 2 teams?

Unless the players in the Ladle are the exact same ones as the Ladle before, then they're can't be 2 top teams.

well generally, the top teams go to each ladle. So you can just take the results of the previous one. Shouldn't the best match be the last?

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:30 am

depends what you mean by best, owned

(but yes, top two seeds should be those in the final & so on..)

What are the main reasons for 'randomising' the teams anyway? Wondering why it's only just been done now after 16 laldes..

Also need a time for the irc armabot randomisation, 8GMT ?

For anyone interested who's not on an irc client use http://www.mibbit.com/, select freenode from the drop down box & join #armagetron.tourneys

Post by **epsy** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:25 am

channels #armagetron.tourneys and #armagetron on FreeNode

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:37 pm

as of now, there are 8 teams, and 7 spots left on KoD and No Team combined

I imagine DS and MC still want to play

freako · Post by **freako** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:14 pm

Concord wrote:as of now, there are 8 teams, and 7 spots left on KoD and No Team combined

I imagine DS and MC still want to play

We'll have enough players concord, don't worry

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:26 am

yeah I now realize my post came out wrong

I meant to mean that we'll almost definitely have a surplus of teams so we better sort out how we'll deal with 10

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:08 am

Concord wrote:we'll almost definitely have a surplus of teams so we better sort out how we'll deal with 10

We'll deal with that when the time comes.

Ww Destiny · Post by **Ww Destiny** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:56 am

Do you guys need the Ww Fortress server?

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:23 am

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:11 pm

I've got the cash to rent a server from Luke Jr if we need it. Just send me a cfg file with the settings or I'll give whoever access.

I might not be able to play in L-17 though. Lots of stuff going on in life (and death).

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:49 am

DDMJ wrote: We'll deal with that when the time comes.

the time comes

Post by **epsy** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:54 am

the time is coming!

Monkey · Post by **Monkey** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:24 am

As of this moment in time, we now have, for the first time ever, 10 teams in the Ladle. Bring it on...

Ratchet · Post by **Ratchet** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:50 am

freako wrote:I've got no problems with the US/EU servers, but we need good stable servers, that can easily hold 16 players.... and atm we only have WW afl for that
And... when 2 european teams end up in the semi-s it's just annoying that they have to play at an american server (same with american)
So we also need a system that keeps server changing to a minimum

I highly suggest pink tomatoes server. His servers are the stablest, and are very lagless(at least for americans). I even think it would be more stable than ww.

Goodygumdrops · Post by **Goodygumdrops** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:25 am

I'm not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere but...

Off the top of my head, I can think of two ways to run a tourney like this with 10 entrants.

A:
First round there are 5 games. 5 teams advance.

Quarter-final round there are 2 games. 1 team gets a bye. 3 teams advance.

Semi-final round there is 1 game. 1 team gets a bye. 2 teams advance.

Final round.

I don't much like seeing a team get a bye into the finals.

B:
First round there are 2 games. 6 teams get byes. 8 teams advance.

Subsequent rounds run as in past 8-team ladles.

I like this idea.

I'm not claiming at all these are the only two ways this can be done. Certainly there are plenty more possibilities, but these two seem the most reasonable to me. Am I missing anything? And if not, which do we like better?