Soul wrote:I guess it determines the best clan not only skill-wise, but loyalty-wise.
First, I want to say playing in the Bowl is voluntary. If you don't like how this is going you can just bail out. Second, this tournament is experimental. There are going to be problems and these discussions are helpful if we want to have this event again.
The Super-Ladle (Bowl) is supposed to be a small, short, intense competition. It is not just a measure of skill, but team stability. You will see the number 5 is key. This is because the season is 9 months long and five is more than half the season. Teams have to play more than half the Ladles and players need to play at least 5 times with the same team. This is totally reasonable, don't you think? How can we determine who is best at the end of the season if anyone can play anywhere? How can we say a team that bulks up their roster in the last months are "the best?"
If you look at the standings they really do reflect performance over the last 9 months. I don't think there is any question that Rogue Tronners was the hottest team of the year. I don't think there is any question that Revolver and Redemption were brutal to play against and that RoadRunnerZ deserves their seed. If you remember the earlier discussions, we originally planned the Bowl to be the top 6 teams, not 8.
I know the "2nd squad doesn't count toward 1st squad standings" seems strange, but look how the stats are recorded. There is no way to make them count without giving larger clans an unfair advantage. In fact, I believe large clans generally have an advantage in Ladle because of the larger talent pool. This evens things out.
Unfortunately, we only have the Challenge Board to use as a player reference. But again, reading over elmo's work on the previous page (I haven't had time to double check it) this is about how I would expect the rosters to look.
-*inS*- wrote:In my head I always assumed the bowl would be some grand yearly event. At the moment it looks exactly like a ladle with handicapped rosters. (Aka no one will remember it apart from any other ladle).
It's not a handicap for the hard-working, stable teams at the top who kept this event in mind over the last nine months. And they will remember the event as bloody brutal because they will sweat in the semi-finals, and the final will be hard as hell.
I hope you all keep the discussion going, but please consider playing the Bowl as is. Changing / adding rules now would be unfair. This is why we resisted changing the scoring formula months ago