Although broadly speaking, it is a shared view within Phoenix.Bytes wrote:Personally I'd prefer this to be some kind of mediatory committee as opposed to some kind of judging committee. I believe it would be more likely to be used and players would feel less like it was some kind of over reaching power trying to control them. Phoenix being a clan on neutral stance with most clans, I wouldn't really want us to get involved in judging other clans, but would be more than happy to be a neutral side in discussion.
This is of course my opinion and not a representation of the clan's.
Pr3 your FSL ides is a good one too, it's been tried a few times, how would we ensure this one happens? I think the FSL may be a better way around it, as the current idea gives an option to clans to simply opt-out without losing anything major, for example, RD as a clan (mostly not as individuals) have a pretty poor reputation, what difference would this make to them? At least with the FSL there's the incentive for involvement.
One thing which may work, is to create a working group to explore this in more detail, before posting their findings/proposal of a working model here for us to vote on. Too often, threads are made with brilliant ideas, they become "ideathons," and nothing changes. Also, perhaps you could introduce the monetary and universal login systems Concord did in ISL, it's a great model to work from. It's popular, and it works.
As it's a massive change, let's begin to discuss the first actions required to make it happen.
This Forum is great and all, but I imagine there's a fair few people with opinions on this who don't have the confidence to post them. There's a real "top-down" attitude to this place, with the assumptions broadly based around length of playing time. People get pretty savagely attacked for stating their opinion on a massive change to our system, that's not hugely welcoming. That also needs to change. We're discussing this in great depth on our forums, I hope other clans are doing the same.
As for the debate for whether Leaders should be involved, that should be a matter for the clans to decide.