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Re: Ladle 44

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Flex is wrong about Team unknown also being incomplete. The revision he linked to was done at 3:55 GMT on the cutoff day. Here is the last revision of the Challenge Board before the brackets were set.

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Oh right, my bad. The bracket template linked in confused me into thinking the brackets were done before the roster update.

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Check the history and edits again. You're basically linking the illegal edit from the final cut-off time. That is Mkay and he edits himself OFF the illegal edit AFTER 18:01 GMT. He basically remove himself from the roster of the illegal edit. He's not even the captain. No other LEGAL edit is done before the cut-off.

Am I still wrong?

No harm done considering he was just removing himself from a team he possibly didn't want to be included on.

[email protected] edits his own team which is a legal edit and is allowed, so not both teams, just one. My bad, on that though.

EDIT: While also looking again. Pr33min3nt ([email protected]) has again edited both teams and made more than 2 changes.
http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php? ... ldid=31964

P.S. Psy's made the decision for SP. My questions and statements still stand, but not on representation of Speeders team position, but rather in the actions taken.
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Looks like a switch of 2 players to me which is legal.

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Flex wrote:Check the history and edits again. You're basically linking the illegal edit from the final cut-off time. That is Mkay and he edits himself OFF the illegal edit AFTER 18:01 GMT. He basically remove himself from the roster of the illegal edit. He's not even the captain. No other LEGAL edit is done before the cut-off.

Am I still wrong?

No harm done considering he was just removing himself from a team he possibly didn't want to be included on.

[email protected] edits his own team which is a legal edit and is allowed, so not both teams, just one. My bad, on that though.

EDIT: While also looking again. Pr33min3nt ([email protected]) has again edited both teams and made more than 2 changes.
http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php? ... ldid=31964

P.S. Psy's made the decision for SP. My questions and statements still stand, but not on representation of Speeders team position, but rather in the actions taken.
I don't see much of a problem, because while Mkay did illegally edit his team by removing his name, he did put his name back on a few hours later. So he did nothing in total. I wish that he had asked his team leader to do it, but really it is no big deal.
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If you want to argue that those edits are against the rules (and some of them might be) and that those involved should be punished, go ahead. However, if you want to be an enforcer of the rules you shouldn't be upset that your team lost its seed and was not included in the initial bracket. I don't see any preferential treatment by the organizers, but maybe you do. There are specific rules about what constitutes a team on the Challenge Board, and how a team retains a seed.

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Here is the deal kiddies, I had 2 choices: Follow the rules, leaving SP off the brackets and get crap from them, or break the rules and randomize 2 empty teams and get crap from everyone else. Nice choice eh?

Everyone has something bad to say about how I volunteer my time, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of volunteers stepping up to do "my job" better - especially not from the Speeders clan. I implore you, as I have in the past, to please be more involved in the process. I'll gladly go do something else with my time.

And Flex, you should be proud instead of angry. You helped create these rules. And they work! The same set of rules that prevented SP from playing actually got them back into the game. That's a good system man, because the goal has always been to give everyone a chance to play. There is really no problem here. Everything was solved smoothly before you even showed up.

And it's not like you need a seed anyway, you'll probably win Ladle anyway, haha. GL guys.

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The ladle page is currently down. Any explanations?

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go on iRC
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does this mean i cant add 1200 because i completely forgot he was on my team :/ even though he always is.
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Thanks, problem solved.

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teen wrote:does this mean i cant add 1200 because i completely forgot he was on my team :/ even though he always is.
He can play as a sub. No need to write him in. Just make sure he plays for your team before the semi-finals.

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We found some viagra spam hack thing on the Wiki, probably completely unrelated :) Have a bracket screenshot while it's down for investigation.
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Re: Ladle 44

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neither me nor zat have team leader in ID DE.
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