Forfeit in the FPL

[epsy]

Talking about youtube, they REMOVED AUDIO PREVIEW

I'm so disappointed :((

[Z-Man]

Where is the problem in finding answers?

That we will find none unless the persons doing the kicking come forward, which is highly unlikely at this point. All other testimonies have to be treated with extreme skepticism. I'm not implying anyone is lying, but it's well known that in the heat of battle, selective memory kicks in and you only remember later what made it through your adrenaline filter. That a member of the opposing team got kicked, smitten or otherwise mistreated is likely to get tossed away by that filter, together with any misbehavior of one of your own teammates.

I get more and more the intention that noone likes to change anything.

Says the one with the two longest posts here by far And change what and how exactly? If you want to suggest to remove kicking rights from team leaders on the fpl, you get my vote. If you want to see certain annoying people banned, not.

Why I can't simply ignore this thread: Pardon me, but I do feel responsible for this game and its community.

[gawdzilla]

Thats why it would have been great if there were logs, I might be paranoid but I don't even believe G5's story.. theyre holding something back.

[Z-Man]

Well, at least that can be cleared up a bit. G5: where do you get that free VPS server from so we can check that there's indeed not enough disk space for arma plus some weeks worth of logs?
(Ok, ok, I admit it. I'm less interested in clearing things up that determining where one can get free VPSes from Logs are easy to fake. If they had logs and something to hide, they'd just edit them before publishing.)

[Word]

Logs are easy to fake. If they had logs and something to hide, they'd just edit them before publishing.

No, if they'd do that the whole plus team tells you it's faked

[Z-Man]

Logs are easy to fake. If they had logs and something to hide, they'd just edit them before publishing.

No, if they'd do that the whole plus team tells you it's faked

I have a suspicion at least parts of the plus team will say it's faked even if it isn't. So, hypothetically, if it's faked convincingly for the rest of us, (say, by adding some more Liz and teen spam) it would pass better than the 'no logs' story.

[Word]

right. I didn't think of this.

[plage]

Strange stuff happening here!

But all in all, its Lizmatics fault!

[zion]

If you want to see certain annoying people banned, not.

I don't need to tell you the sense of this. For sure I am not talking about banning people on certain servers.
I think to change the situation and to avoid something like that in the future it is up to the teamcaptains and clanleaders to take action. I don't like to become too concrete, it's not up to me to tell them how to do their work. I also did not wanted any public stoning, all I wanted was to make the arma community aware of the current problem of ingame missbehaving. What happened on sunday is past and like it looks now we won't be able to find out who started the kicking.


zion...

...this is it!

[Word]

concrete? Oo

for non germans: konkret werden = to go into details
for germans: concrete = beton

Sure we won't find out. But do we really need to? Nothing hinders you from playing a simple rematch, if you'd only stop blaming someone else but yourself.

[compguygene]

Please be aware, zion, we have begun to discuss the idea of "Global Administrators" for the next Ladle, in this thread:http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 60&t=19713

[Olive]

Whats with all the drama lately?

Short overview:
http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 60&t=19579
- KoTG TST drama, 10 pages
http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 60&t=19701
- Ladle 26 drama, 5 pages
http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 60&t=19702
- FPL drama, 6 pages

Have people suddendly lost their manners?

There should be like an 'admin group'. Voluntary objective people who look at the situation in a professional way and decide how to act without being run by emotions.

I admit that I've been part of a drama as well, but this is just so time-consuming, invest your time in other things such as how to make the ladles run smoother etc.:
http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 60&t=19713


By the way:
Every drama needs a fitting drawing! Let the drawings begin!

[K-Yo]

Talking about youtube, they REMOVED AUDIO PREVIEW

I'm so disappointed (

there was audio preview? heh, didn't know that...


more ontopic:
/me prepares his pen

[K-Yo]

- actually we don't know who was kicked first?

It's true, we don't.

was it the egg or the hen?

[Olive]

/me opens paint!
/me apologies for spamming
/me spammed anyway