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This moviepack is a "waste" product of the search for the new default textures
for 0.2.8. The texture consists of a big tron sector map and the word
"ArmagetronAd" as a barcode. The Grid Map is used with permission by author
David "Auric" Hernly. The original image can be found at
http://www.tron-sector.com (used as background).
The floor is closely colored after floor of the light cycle game in
the tron movie. This variation uses the darker floor colors from the movie.

This moviepack requires v0.2.8 of Armagetron Advanced. It will probably not
work in any version after 0.2.8, and it definitely doesn't work in any version
before 0.2.8.

The artwork rim_wall*.png files are under Creative Commons
Attribution-NoDerivative. Created by joda.bot with permission to use the
modified grid map (original by:David Hernly).
The floor*.png and settings.cfg files are public domain.
The other files are default resouces from ArmagetronAd 0.2.8.

Contact: http://forums.armagetronad.net
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(I already uploaded this here but I'll do it again here for convenience.)

Here is the Tron Sector's wall alone, without the bar code or color change or anything, if anyone prefers it this way. One could of course diddle around with the colors to suit one's taste (using something like the Channel Mixer in Photoshop will make it easy). Just remember to rename it rim_wall.png, needless to say.

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If it should be used as texture, it should be resized to 512x512 or 256x256. Otherwise Armagetron will probably not like the textures (or atleast has to rescale them internally).

Phytotron: Please also check with Auric from tronsector, if it's ok to use the image. I'm not sure what the copyrights are...

Is it allowed to copy a image from a random website to use it ? Might fall under fair use ... not sure.

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That one is 480x480. I haven't had any trouble with it. And anyone can resize it themselves.

As for permission, it's exactly the image you got, only unaltered (with exception to sizing, of course). I would find it odd if he found it permissable for you to take it and alter it, but object to an unaltered version. And besides, the original art belongs to Disney anyway, so....

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Standard 2D OpenGL textures must be power-of-two sized. Armagetron uses gluBuild2DMipmaps, which will scale it to the nearest power of two before attempting to send it to OpenGL.

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So is 480x480 fine or not?

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It's fine, but keep in mind that power of 2 resolutions are better so you should use them in the future. :)
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Someone should list a handful of power of two resolutions in the documentation and wiki.

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Post by Lucifer »

512x512 and 256x256 are the ones most useful. :) (I know, this isn't the wiki)

If you've ever seen this progression, then you know them already:

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, etc. Memory is sold in powers of 2 on each stick, afaik, although you can add sticks together in a way that the sum isn't a power of 2.

Yes, this needs to be noted in the "HOw to make a moviepack" article.
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Post by Jonathan »

It's fine to use a texture that GLU can handle even if OpenGL can't, but it will reduce quality and probably increase loading times.

Some powers of two:
1
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
2048
4096
8192
16384
32768
65536
131072
262144
524288
1048576
2097152
4194304
8388608
16777216
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Although I don't think it's a good idea to use anything higher than 1024, for reasonable compatibility.

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Also, the function y = 2^x has a horizontal asymptote on the origin. Here's some powers of 2 that Jonathan left out:

0.5
0.25
0.125
0.0625
0.03125
0.015625
0.0078125
0.00390625
0.001953125
0.0009765625
0.00048828125
0.000244140625
0.0001220703125
6.103515625e-05
3.0517578125e-05
1.52587890625e-05
7.62939453125e-06
3.81469726562e-06
1.90734863281e-06

/me avoids posting a snippet as annoying as Jonathan's :)
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I'm afraid OpenGL doesn't like that.

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I couldn't decide whether to be irritated or highly amused by Jonathan's long list. I'll just sit uncomfortably satisfied in the middle.

As for Lucifer's first reply, that clears it up. See, I made it 480x480 (as opposed to the 256x256 that most are), thinking that it might deliver a higher resolution in-game. Likewise for that goofy JSRF moviepack I made. I just got 480 from screen resolution, heh. Guess I should redo that damn thing.

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Lucifer: actually 2^8.906890595608518293 or 2^(ln(480)/ln(2)) is 480, so 480 is a power of 2 as well ;)
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Post by Jonathan »

Now that we've begun ignoring implicit but obvious assumptions, let me note that some of the numbers posted by others are only approximations.

*stops now*

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