Fortress: Which way should you break as Position 1?

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Which way should you break as Position 1?

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Right
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Whichever way looks best at the time
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akira wrote:Which way you split as centre is mostly a result of a mind-game between yourself and the opponent centre player. If you vary your moves, there is a higher chance you can actually dump the bugger.
Agreed. In competitive matches, being center is all a mind game. You need to trick the opposing center into going the way you want and letting you either kill them or trap them.

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owned wrote:
akira wrote:Which way you split as centre is mostly a result of a mind-game between yourself and the opponent centre player. If you vary your moves, there is a higher chance you can actually dump the bugger.
Agreed. In competitive matches, being center is all a mind game. You need to trick the opposing center into going the way you want and letting you either kill them or trap them.
this is why we had to stop letting durdur play center
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Goodygumdrops wrote:
owned wrote:
akira wrote:...
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this is why we had to stop letting durdur play center
Because chatbots die too easily?



In my opinion, whatever the center does doesn't matter as long as center is blocked. It seems that late center attacks are more popular these days.
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Unless the split is way bad, any half assed center can block properly (unless woned has hax on, but he doesn't count.. really). It's when the center tries to block while saving rubber, all while fighting the opposite center to kill it or center attack.. that's when it becomes hard.
My point is.. blocking center without doing anything else is a tie. Who the flip-flop settles for a tie???

Since you usually defend*, Lord Pein, I certainly understand your point of view though ^^.
*Correct me if I'm wrong.

And to stay on topic a little... Whoever always goes a specific way as center, please let me know in PM.. it'd make things a lot easier for me. thx

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i always split based on which finger spazzes first.

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F*cking center attacks, how do they work? (lol?...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs)

Anyway, as a center, I think it's more important to respond to what the opposing center does, rather than always blocking one side, and running away on the other.
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Here is my experience,

Your left side is more vulnerable because you opponent comes from the left. The best way to seal is to split right at the same position as where player 2 turns left, so 1/2 is sealed and 1/3 is blocked, without using any rubber or brakes.


The second best way I think is to split left, seal, then re-grind player 3's wall until you pass their corner, then turn left again to create a false wall to grind on. Puuquie taught me this the other day and I've only seen 2 people ever beat it (gonzap and potter.... how on earth).



Sometimes to mix things up I go straight without using brakes, sealing against the opposing player 2's wall, then triple binding left and trapping their centre. If they brake before the split, and especially of their players are splitting late, they don't emerge in time to escape. But I haven't tested this enough to say it's a good tactic.
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dariv wrote:The second best way I think is to split left, seal, then re-grind player 3's wall until you pass their corner, then turn left again to create a false wall to grind on. Puuquie taught me this the other day and I've only seen 2 people ever beat it (gonzap and potter.... how on earth).
Many people can get through that. But it can be used effectively.

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Yea, Maz's invention.

You cannot get through it if the box is small enough (doublebinded) and the exit grind is somewhat decent.

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Re: Fortress: Which way should you break as Position 1?

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Lately I've noticed that when I'm center position 2 always splits latest. Anyway, I try to split when I pass pos #2' wall, that it looks more or less like this:

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center________________________ #2
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My opponent's center has to use some rubber for even getting between the gap between center's to get to center. I usually try to cut the right side (opponent's view) to look if I'm able to center.
As you can see, my opponent isn't able to center while I still have the full 5 rubber. Was able to try it once yesterday against slash and it worked instantly. :)
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