Eckz wrote:Z-man, I don't quite understand the ban on liz.
Z-Man wrote:Yes. Because the slightest provocation needs to be answered with full force, and repeated apologies are automatically to be considered insincere and fake.
Eckz: She has a history here. She still has several long-standing feuds that explode into drama about once a month or so. She's made at least one big apology, but hasn't significantly changed her behavior. She's just gone more passive-aggressive. Whatever leniency we offer to people, she's already burned through it several times.Lucifer wrote: (Directed to Liz)
You're just not in a position to demand "good" treatment after having been banned multiple times for acting badly. If you want to martyr yourself, go ahead, but last I heard, you were still one misstep away from getting yet another ban for acting like a jerk based entirely on previous behavior.
So, she wasn't banned unfairly compared to regiT. regiT doesn't have the kind of history here that she has.
Drama requires you to play along. If you wanted to avoid drama, you (more specifically, Liz) could have just blown it off. There are obviously people who agree with the original post, and there are also obviously people who disagree with the original post. So the post wasn't going to hurt you in any way.Eckz wrote:Here, regiT started the argument and Liz responded and you ban her for it--even though she didn't, to my knowledge, retaliate in-game, nor did any other collective member. She's been good, but you can't expect hugs and kisses with people who talk behind our back and then to post a public display of something that tries to downplay our clan.
I've talked to both Appa and regiT in hopes to settle whatever drama was cause by their less-than-satisfying method of trying to get us to become a more sociable group with them and the community--which I wouldn't much care for now if it resulted in bans for getting upset about their approach.
Now, if you had ignored it, or even played along with the nature of the post, people would now be looking at you and your clan in a different light, a better one. We'd all be like "Hey, those guys are cool, even when people talk trash about them, they just hang with it. Maybe their clan is cooler than the others." Now, instead, we're all thinking something more like "It's just another Clan of Vanity, insensitive to players not in their clan, and overly sensitive to anything critical of their clan. Damn, this is why we hate clans." So, I suppose your "defend our reputation" bit didn't work out, because your defense backfired.