You're right. It can't be compared as I'm not abusing a moderator status over a regular user.Word wrote:Whatever it is, it can't be compared to anything you have done and said afterwards. The moderators and forum regulars have been patient with you and tried to tell you in any way they can that you're wrong, and you're still thinking they're all trolls or sock puppet accounts, while you, in your posts, are the writing equivalent of a mamushka (and autism is an explanation for that behaviour). You like your dictionary links but don't see that your abuse far outweighs anything that was thrown back at you. Just compare how often you and we others use curse words/just accuse someone of harassment or hate/just insist that we are entitled to our opinion to make our point. It's certain that you're far lazier mentally than your long posts make it look on the first glance. The only question is whether you can be blamed for your debating style and threats being that irrational even if your intentions are pure. Human dignity is untouchable but one can easily lose it through undignified behaviour.And/or is it abuse at all?
Tried to tell me I'm wrong? By what, avoiding a dispute? If they were trying to tell me I'm wrong then how come they can't do so? Making an accusation is one thing, but being right about it is another.
What abuse have I done? Tell me, because everything I've done is well within the rules as defined by the moderators. If you don't think this should be permitted, why aren't you talking to them about the rules not being clearly defined enough to prevent such "abuse"? But I don't think I'm abusing anybody; you think "pretentious" is an insult, regardless if you even were being pretentious (which I proved you were). So I think you have quite the bias when you say my "harassment" far outweighs that of others. And consider the implications of what you're saying. You're saying that a single person is harassing an entire community far more than multiple people have harassed that single user. Overall though, I think the problem you're having is that this harassment is allowed since the moderators do it themselves without consequence; let alone other users.
Haven't I asked you enough though, to stop making such wild aspersions without at least trying to support it? You aren't certain of anything and you imply that you think I've even made threats. You say one can lose human dignity through undignified behavior (no shit), why do you think I've been calling Z-Man unreasonable? Why do you think I call you pretentious when you're being pretentious? Why do you think certain users get a higher level of respect from me than you do? You are teaching lessons that you have no discipline in yourself.
You are free to doubt that claim all you want. Although many tronners have (unprovoked) asked me directly if I was on the autistic spectrum. So it would seem that you are a minority to doubt it; feel free to talk to others and see for yourself what they think. But in the end, I won't care either way if you don't believe it. It is not an excuse to get preferential treatment - that would be the last thing I want since I'm after fair treatment for all users.dinobro wrote:Durf, since you accusse Word of being biased, let me clarify that I really doubt you are autistic. I think you made that up, like many other things, as attention and drama seems to be something that really keeps you going. Your threads/posts seem to be a self-sufficient evidence.
But see, sometimes you need to face consequences of your actions. You claim you did nothing wrong, but you don't have to actually DO something. You did send a threat to Z-man about hacking forums, probably compromising passwords and so on. I, for one, don't feel comfortable with you being allowed to log in here on daily basis, when you threaten to hack this site. That's why, I would like to see you banished. (Which means your useless, drama-seeking posts would be put to stop too - what a nice bonus!).
And before you ask me to "prove" anything, I really don't have to. I would take Z-man's word over yours anytime, since your motivation is really questionable (see attention seeking part).
Frankly, it seems you only want to think I'm trying to get attention...I don't know why since all of this is instigated by the moderators themselves.. Like I've said to other users...don't you think if they could just leave well enough alone, that I wouldn't have anything to talk about? I don't care about drama - and frankly nobody would have to deal with it if the moderators would actually deal with it (or any of the problems they cause).
You said that I don't actually need to do something... Does that mean that it is normal (and expected) for the moderators to abuse? Can SOMEONE please answer that? Tell me directly!
You also say that I sent a threat to Z-Man about hacking the forums, probably compromising passwords and so on...I DID NOT. Stop spreading propaganda. If Z-Man was a fair and just moderator, he wouldn't be trying to deface me in public in a thread meant to disprove my "slanderous" claims that he was unreasonable. Why is he posting a PM about hacking or trying to make me out to be some sort of threat to the community? That only proves that he is far too unreasonable to a) finish what he even started about the "slanderous" claims, and b) be a fair and just moderator.
Should I note how Z-Man's second sentence explains it all? His disregard for any rules in order to do something emotional and petty (especially since it's off topic) and just to cause drama..? He says that he "promised" he would post the PMs - this shows that he never had any intention to honor anyone's privacy; solely on the basis that he thought you guys needed to see the contents of that PM.
Since none of you seem to care about this thread going off topic, I will explain:
As I said in the PM(s), that is just a statement of assurance which was said after a conversation to determine Z-Man's intent.
The part that I wanted to keep private was the start of the PM chain, where I ask Z-Man how I may go about contributing to the code (something I can do for the community that seems to only want to hate). After a convoluted discussion about how Lucifer wants to impose conditions and restrictions that are absurd (just more abuse - on open source code, can you believe that?) it turned into a discussion of Z-Man's intentions were to make an enemy of me or if he was at all willing to work things out. The answer was eventually an unreasonable "no" (rather, more avoiding of the issue); so I told him simply, as you can see, that if I'm going to be unreasonably/unjustly abused, then next time I won't play "friendly", I will play as an enemy as he made me into one. It's a very simple proposition.
Given Z-Man's unreasonable nature, he should be able to understand it perfectly fine, but seems to be far too emotional to comprehend it thoroughly. When I make mention of an exploit...first of all let's talk about Z-Man's opinion that it is important for the community to see such a mention. This proves that he is (at least) inexperienced as a moderator as all it takes is a single mention for people to go looking for it. So posting about it publicly is far more threatening to the website and everyone's passwords than I ever was. Let me put it in perspective for you: I said in the PM that I wouldn't hold back next time I was unjustly abused. But because the exposure is public now, there is nothing stopping any random person from knowing to look for and finding the exploit. The action of sharing it with the community in itself was far more detrimental to everyone's accounts than the single PM I sent to Z-Man explaining the proposition for his unreasonable behavior. So back to how I made mention to it: Like I said in the PM, it basically means that I will not "play nice" like I tried to do this time, because of how Z-Man is defining me as an enemy, I will be exactly that next time they decide to abuse their status over me like they have been doing so.
It is not a threat to the website or anyone's account - I can't stress that enough. It was merely a way to say that if I'm unjustly banned, I won't try to dispute, I will just do what it takes to unban myself. I know Z-Man won't be reasonable about it, and those are the rules he wants to play by.
I was never an "announcement" to hack the forums; using an exploit can't even really be considered hacking as I wouldn't be making any changes (the "hack" would be the action of unbanning my own account if anything).
Here's why it is ignorant for you to feel uncomfortable because of what I've said (probably won't make you feel any better): I can already hack the forums, and I know how to unhash phpbb3 passwords. It is relatively easy to do. If I had the intention of hacking the forums or getting passwords, then it would already be done by now without you knowing about it. It was only ever a tool to illustrate which direction things could have turned instead of handling a (what should be) very simple dispute.
You say you would like to see me banished, but I haven't broken any rules, and there is no reason to ban me. I haven't even made the threats you seem to think I have.
Even your reason to choose to be unreasonable is in itself unreasonable. I'm not seeking attention by any means. I would like to settle this in private but am not allowed to. Trying to talk to Tank Program is also taking far too long because Z-Man and Lucifer are only causing more disputes in the mean time.I would take Z-man's word over yours anytime, since your motivation is really questionable (see attention seeking part).
Overall, your choices to blindly trust what Z-Man says is probably one of the dumbest bits of "reasoning" I've seen yet on these forums. You're obviously an avid supporter of Z-Man and you have a strong bias...want to talk about it? There's plenty we can prove.
And hey, if you guys don't think it's moderator abuse to post an off topic accusation in an attempt to publicly deface a user, then locking the thread to ensure no one will say anything about it, then why are you even posting here? This topic is addressing moderator abuse. Clearly it was abuse to troll a user as a moderator and not a regular user. Clearly it is abuse to blatantly disregard a user's wish to keep things private just because the moderator thinks the public needs to see it. If I had a naked picture of another user, does that entitle me to share it with the public because I THINK they need to see it? Clearly it is abuse of moderator status to start some petty drama instead of focusing on the bigger picture and addressing a security concern (like I said, I was only ever trying to find out Z-Man's intent and only ever offered to help - he could have easily asked me what I meant but instead chose to make an enemy). Clearly, Z-Man is just still lashing out from me calling him unreasonable and incompetent. He is only proving himself to be more of a disgrace when he can't finish what he starts and leave the thread unlocked. But the problem I have is how some people seem to think I'm harassing him by pointing out his mistakes like that.
Anyway, either stay on topic, or don't post. If Z-Man wanted you to talk about that topic, then the other thread would be unlocked. But apparently there's far too much risk in it for him to actually stand by what he says (a sign of a bullshitter).
Perhaps he is afraid of the rest of the PMs? Doesn't matter, I can post them in a new thread anyway since I can post what I want so long as I think the community needs to see it. Z-Man won't think that's wrong, in fact he should understand perfectly fine.