Ladle 39 Voting Discussion

[sinewav]

Hole Size: Current | Bigger (Up to/including 2.0m)

No man, that's way too vague. We need values to vote on.* Here are the ones from last quarter and the number of votes. You can see clearly how large the winning margin is. Also "1.4" is the size Corn proposed, roughly. Note that no one voted for classic holes.

0.75m (8 votes)
1.40 (1 votes)
1.00 (2 votes)
0.02 (1 votes)

I'd rather we not get into the hole argument again since there are, like, 5 threads dedicated to it already. Maybe we can just leave the vote option blank to write in a hole size, and maybe by some miracle it will change.

Team Size: 6v6 | 7v7
Holes: Choose your Size


*Actually, we let people write in whatever value they wanted and choose the meridian I think.

[PokeMaster]

"A team may add a maximum of 2 substitutes to replace missing players. No substitutes may be added after the quarter finals without the approval of the opponent. The substitute must not have played for another team that day."

This is good. Does "after the quarter finals" mean including the quarter finals, or excluding the qf's? Essentially, must we ask for enemy team permission during the quarter finals to add subs?

[sinewav]

Does "after the quarter finals" mean including the quarter finals, or excluding the qf's?

I'm trying to think of a better way to word that... Hmm...How about:

"Substitutes may be added until the start of the semi-finals. After the semi-finals begin, a team needs the approval of the opponent to add a substitute."

Better?

[syllabear]

Regarding the holing (hopefully won't get too much of a discussion about that here), now that we are used to small holes, there is no challenge in going larger.

I remember holing before used to be a bit of a challenge (not much, but still). After playing small holes for a few months, the fort cafe tourny, theres no way I could miss one of those holes, but before I might have.

We can't get bigger holes again, its not going to work

[INW]

Maybe next year we will do no holes!!!

[PokeMaster]

sounds great sine

[Titanoboa]

"Substitutes may be added until the start of the semi-finals. After the semi-finals begin, a team needs the approval of the opponent to add a substitute."

Better!

[Shock]

score_hole -1
score_suicide -1

[Concord]

huh?

[-*inS*-]

Add 5vs5, 5vs5 means one player less to gank the zone. Also it means, that teams can't lose more than half of their players in order to play 3vs1.

Woahhhh, a good idea

Can we add that in the vote too?

[Cody <3]

Add 5vs5, 5vs5 means one player less to gank the zone. Also it means, that teams can't lose more than half of their players in order to play 3vs1.

Woahhhh, a good idea

Can we add that in the vote too?

Go ahead and vote for it, I already voted for it

[apparition]

I wish the options for hole sizes were "Keep current size" or "Revert back to 1.0" instead of the MEDIAN.

[INW]

I wish the options for hole sizes were "Keep current size" or "Revert back to 1.0" instead of the MEDIAN.

Agreed.

If we do it this way, we will end up with a hole size no one voted for.

[Titanoboa]

If we do it this way, we will end up with a hole size no one voted for.

Impossible!
Well, improbable!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median

[Hoax]

What INW said is correct and the hole size should be determined by the mode, as it was last time. I think what you mean is that if there is a tie between two or more values then the median will be used. Which I think is stupid anyway because that hole size might not be wanted by anyone; so a second preference should be used instead. I don't think the hole size vote will come down to a tie though.