Ladle 34 Voting Discussion

[apparition]

Hey, let's talk about Ladle 34 and see if we can improve anything in any way.

1. Change hole sizes?
2. Implement statistics?
3. Recordings and commentary?
4. 8v8? 7v7? 6v6?


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I personally would like to discuss timing.

Start Ladles earlier in the day and give teams an optional grace period of 10min in between matches (no matter what time they finish)?

Schedule the opening round and quarter finals on one day and the semis and finals on another? They could be a day (days) or a week (weeks) apart even. I don't always enjoy sitting at my computer on edge for hours at a time on Sunday mornings.

[gawdzilla]

Please DON'T make the ladle on multiple days, keep it on sunday.

[sinewav]

Appa, please rename this topic to "Ladle 34 Voting Discussion." It's about time we had one anyway (was supposed to be on 33, but was bumped to 32, so we're all screwed up). We'll get the ideas out and vote on them one week before L-34.

I support the smaller hole vote. I don't know what we can do about timing. We've been over this several times, and what we have today is probably as good as it will get.

And regarding stats and recordings; those probably warrant their own threads, which already exist.

[Desolate]

And what about adding the possibility of bringing back 8v8 ladles, or adding at least 1 player in a 7v7? We could at least try it during one ladle, or schedule a separate fortress tournament for it sometime next month.

[apparition]

And regarding stats and recordings; those probably warrant their own threads, which already exist.

I know there are other threads, but this is just kind of a current idea/specific improvements for Ladle 34. Let me know if there's something you want to add though.

[ItzAcid]

I completely agree with making the holes smaller. As for statistics, if someone would take the time to handle that then it would be pretty cool. I don't like the idea of it being on separate days though its hard enough to make a ladle for one day. People with hectic schedules would probably have a harder time with that. Having an extra person on each team would be interesting

[Mecca]

I don't really care about the holes.

Please hold it all on one day.

If we are going with the stats I can be responsible for taking screenshots at the end of all matches I play in.

[orion]

1- No
2- no matters
3- no matters
4- 6v6
come on guys... dont change ladle.. why change? its good

[owned]

I don't really care about the holes.

Please hold it all on one day.

If we are going with the stats I can be responsible for taking screenshots at the end of all matches I play in.

For reasons I mentioned in the stats page, it's kinda unreliable for stats to be gathered through screenshots - with screenshots, you can still get points after the match ends.

[ZURD101]

was playing in DS mega fort pro 1v1 vs jip, noticed the hole sizes(not holing ina 1v1 >.<) were a lot smaller...i would prefer them this way, because not only can you still use holing as a tactic, you cant all flood a zone through 1 hole...well you can, but not easily. I also like the idea of 7v7, having 4 wingmen to center just sounds, right...as far as the time of the ladle, personally, i'd like it to be held 15-30 mins earlier, so i can participate in more than the first round...but that put the ladle at 10:15-10:30am PST for me..which im fine with, but other west coasters might have problems with >.>

[Spook]

1.Yes
2.No
3.sure
4.6v6

[sinewav]

Just to make sure everyone is clear, because some of you aren't familiar with this type of thread (orion, Spook), we are here to discuss topics to vote on. We are not voting in this thread. Before the next Ladle, each team will get one vote to decide the results.

If you have an idea, bring it up! If it's not deemed ridiculous, and others endorse it, we'll add it to the vote.

Carry on...

[Word]

I'd disable holes, not just make them smaller. but if you like to do so, make small slots...imo 0.4 (or what it's currently set to in ds mega pro) is still too big

[Titanoboa]

Right now, I think smaller holes (for example 0.75 as in DS Fort) have not been enough explored yet. But that might change within a couple of weeks - what do I know.

Decreasing explosion_radius in ladles will certainly change strategies though.

Suggestion for options:

2.oo (Current)
o.75
0.oo

I personally don't think many will vote on the third option - no holes at all - but that's no reason to remove the option imo.

[ItzAcid]

if people actually do vote for no holes, which I doubt will pass, I think there should be either smaller tails (eh, hard enough to encircle sweepers already) or larger zones. Makes it easier to shrink and gank. Just an idea though. Might be looking a little far ahead

edit: lower explosion radius ftw.