Translation (Polish)

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:51 pm

Hello everyone!

I am now working under a Polish translation, but I need some help. I've got some questions:

1. Should I translate 0.2.8.2.1 version, or 0.2.8.2.1 alpha 20080308? I am aware there can be some diffrence between them...
2. Polish language has some special chars, most of them does not show proterty in AA. I can write translation without them (f.e. ó -> o), and it will be readable, but it won't look good. Is it possible to change the font only for this langugage, so that te chars will be shown? If no, should I transla te the file in the correct way, or so that there will be no 'symbols' in the game
3. I think I know what exacly update.py does, but: I can download new.txt and run update.py, or copy english_base.txt and translate the copy: what is the diffrence?

Post by **dlh** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:43 pm

Ideally you should work from the current subversion/bzr source code found in our source code repository. See the wiki Bazaar page or the wiki Subversion page.
You must ensure your file is saved in the ISO-8859-1 (Latin 1) encoding.

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:48 pm

Oh, thanks for quick answer.

Well, I actually tried to code it in iso8859-1, but it doesn't matter. Letters like 'ńłóźżąćś' still look like symbols.

Post by **dlh** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:55 pm

Oh, I see... some of those characters can not be represented in Latin 1 encoding, so unfortunately for full support of the Polish language you will have to wait for UTF8 support in the game. There is a development branch devoted to adding UTF8 support, but I'm unsure of its status.

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:05 pm

In this case imho i should make two files: the first, translated very property, and the second, the wersion without the special chars, so the game will look much better. The user could switch between these two, ane choose what he like.... but probably nobody wolud choose the first one, because it is hard to read sth in Polish having many symbols inside the worlds...

Post by **dlh** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:19 pm

Perhaps this command will help with the transliteration from UTF8 to Latin 1. I'm not sure how readable the output is, but it may save you some time.

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iconv -f UTF-8 -t "latin1//TRANSLIT" utf8-langfile.txt > latin1-langfile.txt

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:12 pm

I've got one more question: I noticed most of server messages I translated does not show during the game, there are just in English.
Let we say there is a f.e. Spanish server, and mine AA's language is English. Server messages will be shows in Spanish, won't they? So these server messages I translated into Polish will work only if I host the server?

In other words: Does the server send the client signal like 'Lets show message: player_win_frag' or just send the string 'Now please print this text: Player1 core dumped Player2' ?

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:15 pm

rafalcieslak wrote:In other words: Does the server send the client signal like 'Lets show message: player_win_frag' or just send the string 'Now please print this text: Player1 core dumped Player2' ?

The latter.

Most of the messages you see in the console depend on the server's language.

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:26 pm

So why are they included in client, if they are not used? Shouldn't they be only in dedicated server?

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:36 pm

Every client can also host a game

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:43 pm

Oh, right, I've forgotten about it

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:12 pm

wrtlprnft wrote:
rafalcieslak wrote:In other words: Does the server send the client signal like 'Lets show message: player_win_frag' or just send the string 'Now please print this text: Player1 core dumped Player2' ?
The latter.

Most of the messages you see in the console depend on the server's language.

Hm... But why it does not work in the first mode? Why servers does not send client message like 'Lets show message: player_win_frag, where \1 = "Player1", \2 = "5 points" and \3 = "Player2"'? It that way everyone would get server messages in his language

. Of course, sometime it is needed to print a special message, like 'Welcome to our server, the rules are blahblahblah...' but if it is a standard message like this one about 'core dumping' or 'Overall winner:' it would be cool to see them translated.
So what is the reason for using the latter method?

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:43 pm

What do you do if the client is older and doesn't have the message in question in any language? what if the meaning or parameters of a message change between versions?

Post by **epsy** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:52 pm

mainly because it was fast and easy to code and (almost) didn't require backwards compatibility at all

now what you're mentioning is part of a draft which hasn't been written yet, but I'll let you guess that we've been thinking of something like that for long ago
I'll put up a blueprint about that, and, trough a basic implementation is really needed for the new sound engine which is planned for 0.3, there's some crazy things which can be made later (splitting stuff in different parts of a cockpit, ignoring some 'types' of messages, transforming messages (Team blue, Team red and Team gold got 20 points each for conquering Team ugly's base) and..much more)

rafalcieslak · Post by **rafalcieslak** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:46 pm

Good news!
I've done translated the alpha version from march, now I just need to update it to version from repository, and finally send it to friends to check for mistakes (and convert it to version with no special chars, dlh's command does not work well) . In few days time everything should be done!

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